GIVING AND RECEIVING FEEDBACK – Writers Helping Each Other

Retreaters writing and giving and receiving feedback at our April Retreat.

When we are working on a story we can get lost in the forest of words and can’t see a way through. Other writers can help. And we can help them find a way out of their own dark woods. 

One thing I know for sure is that I’ve learnt the most about writing from giving feedback on other writer’s stories. It’s so much easier to see where things are getting off track in someone else’s writing, than in your own. 

Why?

In our own stories we live in that world we’ve created. We fill in all the missing gaps and plot holes that may be on the page with the thousands of extra unwritten pages in our heads. We know why that character is acting so strangely (it was their terrible battle for attention with their sister in childhood) but we can’t see that the reason hasn’t made it to the writing.  

We sort of know when there’s a plot hole but think perhaps no one else will notice. Sorry to say, they do!

The same thing happens with proofreading, our eyes no longer see the words on the page, only the words we expect to be there. We need other eyes. Eyes that haven’t been living the story as we wrote it. Eyes that see only what’s made it to the page and what’s missing, or what can go. Yes, those bits, the darlings that have to go. All those extra trees, blocking our view of the path!

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Don’t struggle on alone with your project, get some feedback from other writers who are kind and understand that writing a book is no easy task. Writers need each other. Yes, we mostly like to write alone, though all those people who produce great work at Writing Fridays in QLD and in other writing groups like company, but ALL writers need other writers to help them see their work more clearly and bring it to publication standard.

If you are searching for Beta Readers who are writers, then join or start a small writers’ group where you can exchange work and give constructive advice on how to fix any flaws. 

I like to keep my writing groups small, four or five or even less will do. I’ve met my writing group buddies through attending retreats and workshops, writers’ festivals and even on buses. 

Writing group meetings can be lots of fun!

Team up with a few like-minded people on the same writing path as they understand the Herculean task of writing a book and will be able to give you helpful feedback, not just the “jolly goods” from family.

Here are some simple tips to help you give and receive feedback on your writing.

HOW TO GIVE FEEDBACK 

  • First do no harm. Remember that writers are sensitive folk. Be gentle in your feedback but also helpful. 
  • The aim is to make the piece of work the best it can be, while keeping the writer’s heart and soul intact.
  • When giving feedback keep the work as the subject. EG: This chapter isn’t working as well as others or This sentence is hard to understand. Avoid making anything personal by not using “you”. Eg: “You write like you don’t know that character at all”. Instead, “That character isn’t as fully developed as the others”.
  • Give your emotional response as you read through. Are you feeling happy for the character here? Or afraid? 
  • Notice what’s working well, and what areas aren’t. 
  • Praise what is working – here you can be personal – You did a great job with that scene! –  and gently point out areas that need more work. 
  • Give tips on how to remedy the problem.

WHAT YOU’RE LOOKING FOR

STRUCTURAL STUFF

  • Is there a hook? What’s grabbing the reader’s interest and keeping them reading?
  • What’s the central quest or question? – is there a through line that carries the piece?
  • What’s at stake? Is enough at stake?
  • Point of View – is the right person telling the story. If multiple POV characters, are the right ones telling the right bits. Is the writer head hopping rather than staying in the POV character’s voice?
  • Is it starting at the right place? Where else could it start? Start with a hook!
  • Does it end in the right place? Each chapter, each scene.
  • Is anything slowing the story down? Is it compelling or are there a lot of scenes that aren’t really going anywhere or moving the story forward?
  • Characters: Are they engaging? Do you empathise with them, or at least find them amusing if they’re not meant to be likeable? Is the main character making decisions and taking action, changing and growing? 
  • Are there SCENES? Or is the writer telling and not showing?
  • Is it making sense?
  • Setting. Can you clearly envision where action or dialogue is taking place?
  • Is dialogue used? Is it working well? How can it be improved?

LINE EDITING

  • Trim down unnecessary adjectives and adverbs
  • Remove all extra padding from sentences. Each sentence should be easy to understand and get the intended meaning across clearly, without extra words getting in the way.

For more on line-editing see SELF EDITING 101.

The main thing to remember when giving feedback is that writers are sensitive souls, their writing is precious to them and they’ve worked hard on what you’re reading. Be gentle and encouraging, but also help them to improve their work with specific, story related and framed advice.

Keep your advice constructive. Not, “You suck at dialogue” but “The dialogue in this section doesn’t sound natural yet”.

Always find at least three good things in every piece to balance out the criticisms. Start and end with the positives – even if you have to repeat them. 

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HOW TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK

  • First, get your story into the best possible shape you can and present it professionally. Then put on your big girl pants and send it out, knowing that this process will improve your story and help you to develop as a writer. I like to do direct swaps so both parties are going to be receiving critiques simultaneously – fair is fair.
  • Ask specific questions about the advice you’re seeking – eg: Is this character working? or Tell me where it gets boring. Or Am I starting in the right place? Am I head jumping? Am I writing in scenes?
  • When you get the feedback. Stay quiet. Just let the other person give their opinion and resist the urge to jump in straight away in defence of your work. Just listen to the critique all the way through. Say thank you.
  • Remember people are taking the time to read your work and help you improve it. They are trying to be useful and to help you make your piece the best it can be.
  • Don’t take critiques personally. Don’t react immediately and leap into a new draft. 
  • Let the feedback settle for a few days at least. 

Most of all TRUST YOUR GUT. You’ll know what criticism feels right. “Oh yeah, I thought that character was kind of blah”, or “I knew I should’ve started there! YES!”.

You are the writer, and YOU HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OVER YOUR WORK. You make the ultimate decision over what feedback to accept and what to let go. Take your time and be kind to yourself.

BOTH PARTIES

  • Be respectful and kind at all times.
  • Have fun and enjoy helping each other.
Photo by Zen Chung on Pexels.com Writing buddies become great friends.

Sharing our writing in this most intimate way, assisting our writing friends to polish their work to high standard and receiving their comments on ours with grace, is a great joy. Who else gets to sit around together talking about characters as if they’re real and then decide what we’ll do to them next?

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My Feedback and Revision Relax and Write Retreat is coming up soon! We’re full to the brim with eager beavers ready to share their work with others and learn all the tricks for self-editing and submitting to publishers. 

If you’d like to join us in August 2025 and set that as your date for finishing your first draft (or second or third or tenth) then just drop me a line! 

Places are still available for our Memoir and Life Writing Retreat October 18 – 20 in beautiful Springbrook in the Gold Coast hinterland. Prices start at only $550!! Check it out HERE

Heavenly Hoi An (February 10 – 16 2025) and Blissful Bali (23 – 29 June 2025) are now open for booking. Are you ready for one of these grand and wonderful writing adventures? Hope so! I’d love to see you in one of these beautiful places writing up a storm. BOOK NOW and grab your spot.

Me and the lovely Laurie checking out HOI AN old town at the Vietnam retreat earlier this year,

Do you have a writing group? A writing buddy? What works best for you and your stories?

Let me know. I hope these tips have been useful.

Have a wonderful writing day!

Lots of love

Edwina xx

DO YOU NEED A WRITING BUDDY?

Writing can be a lonely business but it needn’t be! The greatest joy of my writing life is connecting with other writers, through my workshops, editing and retreats, but even more so connecting with other writers who help me iron out the problems in my own work – my writing buddies!

Over the years I’ve had several different writing buddies and some that have lasted the whole long way. These writing friends hold a special corner of my heart. A unique trust develops as we share often deeply personal work and help each other figure out how to make the words sing, how to get the message across more clearly, or how to fix that awful character you just can’t figure out.

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Can’t see the forest for the trees?

When we’re writing, especially longer works, it can be hard to see whether the structure is working or if our characters are likeable for all the words in the way. We can’t see the forest of our book for the trees of our laboured-over words. This is where the eyes of another kind writer can help. Another writer can stand above our forest and show us the way through. They can say, “Hey, you’ve veered off to the left here, away from the main story, time to get back on track,” or “Hmmm, seems like you lost one of your characters after chapter 3,” or “Wow, your dialogue is great, but a lot of the time I don’t know which forest we’re in. You need more setting detail.” You get the gist.

Gay and I have been writing buddies for a while now (as well as retreat buddies).

Friends and Family?

We can show our writing to friends and family and they may say nice things… Marion’s partner famously said, “Jolly good,” about everything she wrote. Or they can say not so helpful things like, “Who’d want to read that?” like my ex once did. If your family member or friend is an avid reader or a writer themselves, then their feedback is useful and of course we want to keep them as our cheering squad, BUT if we want useful, applicable advice, it needs to come from someone on the same path – a fellow writer.

Enter the Writing Buddy

If you’re lucky you already belong to a writing group where members read and critique each other’s work. Keep these groups small, no more than five, or the feedback can become overwhelming. But really you just need one good writing friend who you can show work to when you’ve gone cross-eyed reviewing it on your own. That fresh pair of eyes to see what you’ve become blind to is invaluable, a treasure in fact.

For many years my writing buddy Helena and I exchanged manuscripts and helped each other polish them to publishable standard. My friend Marion was also invaluable. Now I belong to a writing group of five authors whose help is incredibly useful, even just doing short pieces. And I have wonderful feedback buddies in my international retreat cohost Kerstin Pilz and my other retreat friends. Every reader willing to give feedback is a valued gem, even if all they do is fix typos. But the very best writing buddies can see the big picture of what you’re trying to achieve and help you get there.

How do you find a writing buddy?

I met my first writing buddy, Marion, at a QLD Writer’s Centre Workshop – we caught the bus together and started a writing group as we chatted on the way home. Helena and I met as students doing the Mphil in Creative Writing at UQ. I met Vahida my lovely new writing buddy on a retreat at Varuna House. And now I have my writers group made up primarily of fellow writing tutors at UQ and my treasured retreaters, including the beautiful Gay whose new book is coming soon! Can’t wait!

So to find your writing buddy I recommend you go places you’ll meet other writers in real life. Online buddies are okay, you can get critiques from people on GoodReads and other online places like fan fiction sites, or through Facebook groups. Attend writing workshops, treat yourself to a retreat, connect with like-minded writers who have a trick or two up their sleeves and arrange to meet regularly to exchange work for feedback. Don’t be afraid to ask, “Hey, would you like to swap work for feedback sometime?”

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Why feedback matters

Of course you can continue blithely on your merry way alone, but feedback from a fellow writer will only improve your work and increase your chances of publication, or a wider readership. Feedback points out problems we may not have seen, but deep in our guts knew were there. Feedback shows us what our strong points are and where we may need a bit more practice. Feedback shows us that someone has read our work with attention to detail and cares enough to help us improve it. Feedback matters.

Have you got a writing buddy? Or a writing group? Do you swap work and compare notes on your writing? If not, why not? Start now!

If you’re still looking, then sign up for a few workshops or come along on a retreat and find your people, ask one or two of them if they’d like to share work for feedback, or make a writing group.

Writing buddies make writing more fun!

We all need friends in this crazy business full of rejection and criticism from strangers. Our books are our precious creations and beginning to show our work to trusted fellow writers toughens up our writerly skins to prepare us to share our writing with the world. Writing buddies cheer us on when we get a lucky break and help us drown our sorrows when a rejection hits hard. They encourage us to brush ourselves off and get back on the horse that threw us, sit back at the desk and start writing again. Besides, writers’ meetings can include food and wine and lots of laughter.

Have fun! Life is short, find a writing buddy to share your love of words today!

Lots of love

Edwina 🙂 xx